PCARS 2 - SEASON 1 - DIV 2

Discussion in 'PCLOZ Past Seasons' started by stucar17, Oct 3, 2017.

  1. Ad2mny

    Ad2mny Absentee Moderator / PS5 ACC Team Raceonoz Gold Member Super ROOZ

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  2. SuiCid3

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    Can't recall ever seeing a ROOZ ladder this close after 3 rounds during my time here. :thumbsup::thumbsup:
    Let's hope it stays that way for the rest of the season. It would make winning this division's championship that little bit sweeter.
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    Some highlights from last weeks race. My apologies to those who were caught up in my spin Lap 1.
    Enjoy
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  5. VARDZ

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    Out tonight... daylight savings and the early start just doesn't work for me
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    Results are provisional, protests pending.
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  7. SuiCid3

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    Not much to report.
    Qualified about where I expected to be. Race start, gave @stucar17 a little bit of a tap but thankfully was very minor.
    Race one was terrible, just too many mistakes, ended up finishing 25s behind the leader.

    Race 2, started second behind @Telum and managed to overtake him at T2. Had hoped to pull a bit of a gap as he had a bad exit but @disturboed had other plans. We cleared the rest of the field by a couple of seconds and then he proceeded to hound me for half the race and he managed an awesome Danny Ric-esq braking move into T2.
    Then it was my turn to snap at his heels for the next bunch of laps which ended up with me throwing it all away with a few laps to go when I overcooked it exiting T2..

    Well done to stu for the win and the rest of the podium, whoever you may be.

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  8. stucar17

    stucar17 Moderator Team Raceonoz Gold Member Super ROOZ

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    some good racing last night guys....with my TV on the blink i didn't get t do any prac laps till sunday morning when i finally got a chance to steal the downstairs TV....

    Anyway, was sitting on pole with a 31:3### until DJ stole if with about 10 seconds to go ! Well done...

    Lights went green and i hung to the inside to avoid any contact, and with it being so much slower there, rano managed to wipe my bum, thankfully there was no mess to clean up ! @disturboed got past so was sitting in third, until about lap 3 where he managed a self inflicted spin at turn 3 i think it was...was chasing DJ down slowly, and got back to about .8 of a sec before he copied turbos unorthodox style and gifted me 1st......With about 6 laps to go i had a few different guys behind me at different stages, but managed to hold on for the win with a very gentle last lap...

    The reverse grid started really well, @Telum did a great job on the formation lap and it looked like everyone got through clean and had some great racing. i managed to get myself up to 4th (even managed a cracking pass on jim through T7 and 8) and was right behind @Bounty05 , @disturboed and rano before the message bank started to go nuts and spun 3 times in 4 laps trying to multi task.

    We will confirm the regs for the next round asap......was supposed to be a wet to dry round but given the patch still hasn't landed, and the issues with the pits, it will either be a full dry or full wet race.
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  9. stucar17

    stucar17 Moderator Team Raceonoz Gold Member Super ROOZ

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    I will post the following in all div threads, as am hearing the same thing from all rooms after races, which TBH is really disappointing....

    EVERYONE should be trying to get through the race without any contact.
    In my mind the contact we're seeing is from drivers either being sloppy, desperate or a mix of both. There are drivers in all divs that have 0 contact with those around them after many many seasons....We all bang on about not having to deal with with the crap in public lobbies, but sometimes the mistakes made are not too far from what you get there.....The only difference is hours of work for the stewards group and couple of pissed off members that are here because of our 'moto' of providing clean racing. We have a lot of new members this season, and im not certain we are doing a great job of keeping them ! I know its not always black and white, and if we wanted congo line racing we could get into a super slow car that provides it.

    FINALLY .... We ALL know there can be issues with lag etc in this game and 2 drivers having 2 completely different replays. If you have been hit, or contact made, as frustrating as that contact might have been, please don't assume it was the same from the other driver's view....This is why we have the process in place if you wish for the stewards group to review any incident.
    Peace :ninja:
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  10. SuiCid3

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    Full dry please.... otherwise I need to find 4 seconds in the wet somewhere! :cry::cry:
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    Full Wet please
  12. disturboed

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    Full wet, but actually wet, not drizzle. LOL
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    Agreed there... I think I'd have a better chance at it being FULL wet than what it was last night..
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    hope to test it tonight....
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    Ad2mny Absentee Moderator / PS5 ACC Team Raceonoz Gold Member Super ROOZ

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    To ALL ROOZ DRIVERS. Yet another post regarding driving etiquette.

    As a member of the stewards team, I am privy to all of the average driving here in our league, and TBH a vast majority of incidents appear to be caused by poor spacial awareness/failure to allow racing space.

    All of the current League platforms have warning arrows telling you there is another driver close, and where it is in relation to you. PCars also has the option for the pit crew chief to tell you where and when a car is near you, which I personally find very helpful. I'm not sure if these assists can be turned off, but I think maybe we need to make it a rule that they should remain on.

    There have been a number of instances where if just a little room was left, the attacking driver may not necessarily be able to make the pass, but at least both drivers would be able to continue on without incident. Or maybe they may have made the pass, but been on the wrong line for the turn and lost the position again.

    My next point of concern is the lax attitude some people have recently shown regarding the rule about changing lines to try break a draft/block drivers. We have had a couple of borderline instances pass through the stewards group and feel it may need to be highlighted to ensure everyone is aware of what is allowed.

    Directly quoting RaceOnOz Rules and Regulations 2.0:

    - A lead driver (relative to other cars in proximity) may not drastically change their line in a corner in order to prevent a car behind from passing.

    - A lead driver (relative to other cars in proximity) may make one tactful change of line in approaching a corner to defend their position.

    - A lead driver (relative to other cars in proximity) may not swerve from side to side at any point of the track to prevent the following car from gaining the tow.

    - A lead driver (relative to other cars in proximity) must maintain a straight line when driving down a straight.

    Pretty straight forward stuff.

    As Stu has said many a time, this is a game, there are no sheep-stations, and a good clean battle (I think) can be just as rewarding and gratifying as a win. Some courtesy towards other drivers, a bit of common sense and a better awareness of what is going on around you will make yours and your fellow racers' night much more enjoyable, and take some of the load off the stewards for stuff that should not even be an issue.

    Thankyou
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  16. stucar17

    stucar17 Moderator Team Raceonoz Gold Member Super ROOZ

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    ok guys, just wanted to confirm that this weeks round at Catalunya WILL BE A FULL WET ROUND.

    I did some testing last night with all settings and can confirm there have been some changes somewhere along the line to the way live track works and how drivable the car is in extreme wet conditions....That said the live track is unbelievable the way it works... If the patch lives up to expectation we will have a fantastic season 2.

    We tried (thanks to @truss1984 @SuiCid3 @Bounty05 and @RHINO11) running all wet weather option including thunderstorm, storm and rain (heavy) and the car is more than drivable ! The track definitely evolves and driving around the puddles and standing water certainly adds another element.

    Will be testing tonight to finalise exact details, but for private practice sake,

    run 2 weather slots -
    1. rain
    2. thunderstorm
    with all other date and time settings as per the previously stated regs
    .....Will update today as i get time in the OP

    Also, if you havent already, please read ad2mnys post re driving standards.....all divs just need to be 5% better for great racing right through the field. Things are just a bit sloppy at the moment.

    1. @stucar17
    2. @truss1984
    3. @dj2ca
    4. @VARDZ
    5. @Bounty05
    6. @SuiCid3
    7.@garyw61
    8. @Jim_aka_The_Man
    9. @Telum familiaGTR
    10. @disturboed

    11. @ned83
    12. @tim mulford (smokey085)
    13. @
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    thanks stu
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    Also keep in mind guys, oversteering/understeering is very very very easy the more it rains so be careful if you're side by side with someone.
    Keep an eye out for forming puddles, most notably inside of turn 1 and inside of the last corner.
    Both puddles are smack bang on the racing line so best to avoid if you can.
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  18. stucar17

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    R5. BARCELONA GP
    - 23 LAPS - WET RACE - 1/6/17
    Qualifying @ 1pm - rain
    Race Start @ 2pm - Thunderstorm / light rain / rain / rain
    - Time progression : REAL
    - Compulsory pit stop : NO
    - Fuel : OFF
    - TYRE WEAR : Accelerated
    - Weather progression : Sync to race
    - Time progression : Real time

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    Ok guys, we have been pretty vocal in trying to get everyone to give a little more room to stop some of the unnecessary contact in the last few races....
    PLEASE take notice of the following :
    - Have your proximity indicators ON
    - Use your in game spotter... Really does make things much easier to know where other cars are and can help to stop contact. If you need help to find these options let us know.

    TRACK LIMITS : As we are running with 'track limit penalties" OFF, we will run with our usual Raceonoz track limit regulations. This means you MUST have at least 2 wheels on the ripple strip OR white line that defines the track limit.
    There are a couple of spots here where running wide does give an advantage.... Making a mistake or 2 is expected, however doing it continually to gain advantage WILL RESULT in a post race penalty.
    - Exit of turn 2 into 3 make sure you dont run wide on exit
    - The chicane (turns 14 and 15) please observe the curbs...

    CONTACT : We have gone over this far too many times in the last 2 rounds.... We have lost drivers due to rough driving. We all know the deal with avoiding contact, if you do make a mistake give the spot back.
    It's not that hard

    COMPULSORY PIT STOP
    : N/A
    PIT ENTRY / EXIT : N/A

    BLUE FLAGS :
    There has been a few instances where lapped cars are not giving clear passage to the race leaders. Please observe blue flags, and move out of the way of faster cars if you are being lapped. You should be aware of the leaders coming up on you, and move out of the way as soon as possible. Best to get off the race line, and with a small lift let them go, so you can continue the fight with those you are running with. Failure to observe blue flags WILL result in a penalty. That said, race leaders cant barge their way past either. Please use your brains here, and give room when you can !

    RACE RESTARTS : This has popped up a couple of times this season. Our goal is to 'try' to give everyone a fair chance of racing.....The room host "MAY" decide that if there is a crash due to a race start incident, mass DSC or an obvious issue. Its a balancing act for all involved, trying to get everyone a race, remembering that every restart is another 10 or 15 mins.....cann be frustrating, especially if youve gone from 10th to 2nd but please look at the bigger picture !

    STEWARDS GROUP AND RACE PROTESTS : This season we will again be using the stewards group for racing infringements and protests. The specific Stewards group thread will have all the info in it, regarding rules and regs, and the protest procedure. Please read it and understand how it works...we are still to link in the collated rules and regs.........You have until MIDNIGHT MONDAY night following the race to submit a protest, and MIDNIGHT TUESDAY night for your evidence to be submitted (ie video).
    http://www.raceonoz.com/forums/index.php?threads/stewards-group-official-thread.2593/

    SAVE YOUR REPLAY : If the room host can ask all drivers to save their replay would be good before exiting the room.....once they exit out and the option goes, it cant be retrieved ! I believe some people havent been able to save, this may mean you need to clear out some space from your replay library...

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    And on that note I'll let you all know that I won't be racing anymore. Getting turned around by someone with no racing etiquette multiple times and him not having the manners to redress or the guts to admit he was wrong definitely isn't my cup of tea.