Hey guys, sorry, life been in the way last few days......
@Crunch, have to say good job in collating what has largely been in place for many seasons....Adjustments and clarification of rules is important given where this community has come from over the last few years.
Can i say, general racing common sense has to be foremost in people's minds when competing. It wont matter how 'clear' the rules are, the inevitable network issues and 'driver interpretations" will always give grey areas where we would "wish" for things to be black and white.
This review is about the PROCESS of how we go about our racing, and what is expected of ALL competitors. Its about getting all the added bits, as we have grown, and incorporating them into the regs to everyone is clear. it will only work if everyone reads and understands them !!!!
I hope to get a little time over the next few says to sort with Hat the penalty table for quick review by those interested...We are also close to asking some of those interested for the Stewards group.....Again, hopefully can get to it over the next 3 days.
EDIT :
The only other thing i would add here guys, after reading some of the posts 3 pages back, is that catching drivers doing the wrong thing, Can on some occasion, be an extremely time consuming thing for our room captains. @Crunch can i use the following example as to why 'I" feel the community NEEDS to use TRUST as well.
When i was in my first season, there was an incident where a Div 1 driver cut the pit entrance at Lemans (from memory) and the only reason the other drivers around knew, was that a gap of 10 seconds was then 2 seconds (from memory) on the completion of the stop. On review of the replay, it was judged that he had gained a time advantage, and was then penalized (rightly so) in the form of a pit lane drive through. The driver "straight lined" the pit entry hoping not to get caught ! My point here is that we cant expect room captains to troll through race replays of every pit entry and exit in the hope they find someone who has run over a white line. Some of the best stewards are the drivers where something doesnt make sense. This is a completely different scenario to someone attempting to enter correctly but putting a wheel just over an entry line.
Remember too, the PCARS replay is broken, in that it randomly changes driver liveries,drops drivers from the replays all together and if the driver is DSC then quite often the replay has a car stuck on the grid. It also doesnt have the telemetry like the GT6 replay has. It can make things very difficult
Personally, if i am racing someone, and i am 1 sec ahead, we both pit and all of a sudden he has a 10 second advantage, i may have a look at it, but if its within 1 sec or 2 i just get on with it.
The one thing i dont want to have happen, is our group getting bogged down having to trawl through hours of replays making sure everyone doesnt brake a rule by a tire width !
- Pit entry will be specified at driver briefing, most tracks have a penalty for too fast an entry (GT6) or time penalty for cutting on entry
- Pit exit....Most drivers do remain in the exit lines, however some tracks dont exactly provide a safe exit lan in relation to other cars on the race line.
I think a 5 sec penalty for anyone outside the lines is massively over complicating things for those having to spend the time looking. `
- track limits. I have always said, drivers are allowed to make a couple of mistakes in a race....In pack racing, guys are very quick to know when someone is off track and gaining from it. Without trolling through hundreds of races, there have been incidents where drivers have highlighted the number of laps where the car infront has "cut" or run wide in the interest of keeping the car behind ... behind !
3 times in a race can be seen as mistakes, any more than that drivers would have to be thinking it's becoming a habit and outside the rules.
- red notes at the bottom of the list were simply things i felt we needed to "word in" somehow,
* Multiple rule breach - driving with a CLEAR disregard for multiple rules could incur a bigger penalty than the possible combined infringements
* Evidence- reinforcing that we can only rule on the evidence available to us
* game glitches - PCARS has the brilliant magnetic effect, which is taken into account when looking at incidents. There have been numerous occasion where a car has made a clean pass, but the slightest contact has seem them both fire off into the boonies
- I think the main offences are highlighted well in the table. perhaps we need to say that the B pillar is defined as being along side, so long as the "passing car" can make the corner without contact, and in "control".
Last edited: Jan 27, 2017
