Season 14 Discussion

Discussion in 'Sunday Night Gran Turismo' started by Hatfield, May 30, 2017.

  1. emmo46

    emmo46 GTLOZ Results Steward Team Raceonoz Gold Member Super ROOZ

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    I'm finding the RX7 only 1/2 a second quicker than the BRZ around Suzuka so knocking power off the RX7 for Div 2A would make them equal probably and I think the BRZ is slightly better handling so would still take that
  2. B-Spec Bob

    B-Spec Bob Active Driver

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    Did a few more laps tonight in the detuned RX7, but not for as long as I did before.
    Revised with updated times and reordered fastest to slowest:

    Suzuka Circuit 2014 online lobby @ noon with RH tyres, 5/5 brake bias, no rigidity improvements and fuel depletion off:
    [Stock Transmission km/h]
    (@Hatfield 's times)

    RE Amemiya RX7 '06
    512pp 337hp 1100kg [280]
    (2:05.168) 2:04.200

    Autobacs Garaiya '08
    514pp 352hp 1175kg [270]
    (2:10.693*) 2:05.113

    Subaru BRZ GT300 '12
    518pp 361hp 1150kg [270]
    (2:06.123) 2:05.517

    RE Amemiya RX7 '06
    500pp 306hp 1100kg [280] - Suggest not doing oil change for same pp and more hp.
    (*) 2:05.743

    Subaru Impreza GT300 '08
    514pp 333hp 1100kg [270]
    (2:05.621) 2:05.951


    Lexus IS350 GT300 '08
    513pp 333hp 1150kg [270]
    (2:06.682) 2:06.087

    *No updated time.
    Last edited: Jun 28, 2017
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  3. bmx_mtb_boy

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    Garaiya may or may not suit certain drivers. Personally I'd rather run that car for myself. Was some 2 seconds quicker than the BRZ and more importantly, more fun to drive.
  4. StigsTC

    StigsTC Active Driver

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    DS3 or wheel?
  5. bmx_mtb_boy

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    DS3. Wheel is hooked up to my PC for Assetto Corsa. Still broken FFB though. Really easy compared to a Stratos Rally Car on dirt.....
  6. Razorpod50

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    Hey.
    Been away on holidays for the last few weeks.
    So its looking like the rx7 judging by your conversations, is that base model ?? Stock no tune ??
    Need to get some laps in asap.
  7. VARDZ

    VARDZ Professional Driver

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    I think i am going to have to beg, borrow, steal, or something a PS3 to be in on this season... sounds amazing!!!!
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  8. Razorpod50

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    Done some testing today.
    Garaiya is a bit of a hand full handling wise.
    I prefer the rx7 personally.
    my times were in line with hats tests.
  9. BMWF30328

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    Despite Emmo missing me on his comment re drivers and "divisions" and after reading all the discussion I am really looking forward to this season as the mix of cars and drivers will give us both variety and also a bit of a GT feel as cars lap at different pace. Obviously huge discussion around an equitable formula for all but I am thinking greater clarity will come after round 1. i don't mind the race format either thogh I will miss an enduro. The thing that has me most intrigued is the strengths and weaknesses of each car as we move to each track. Power versus balance will fluctuate I am sure and that is good.

    I do have an idea around success equalisation which relies on time penalties each race rather than reducing bup (which means driver has to adjustto different car dynamics on thefly (but won't post unless the bhp penalty issue is controversial.
  10. Hatfield

    Hatfield Teams Championship Chairman Team Raceonoz

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    not running any success equalisation this season
  11. emmo46

    emmo46 GTLOZ Results Steward Team Raceonoz Gold Member Super ROOZ

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    You hadn't entered at that stage.
  12. B-Spec Bob

    B-Spec Bob Active Driver

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    Tested a detuned Garaiya tonight with @Joshboy1256 :

    Autobacs Garaiya '08
    509pp 339hp 1175kg [270]
    (*) 2:05.273 - although averaging mid 2:05s

    I think Suzuka is most probably distorting the comparisons because it favours cars with good aero grip.
    Will probably redo comparisons at another track on the weekend to make an informed decision on an appropriate detune amount.
  13. Hatfield

    Hatfield Teams Championship Chairman Team Raceonoz

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    try daytona road

    from memory the high amount of top end really favours the rx7
  14. B-Spec Bob

    B-Spec Bob Active Driver

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    I'd use a smaller track with a variety corners to do these tests.. 2 minute laps are way too long and introduce too many human variables to give an accurate comparison between the cars.
  15. BMWF30328

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    hi Emmo, its not a biggy and I appreciate this is a labour of love for any of the ROOZ mods but I think Bryan had posted that I was in for the season. i am in now and that is the important thing. cheers mate.
  16. Zanta21

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    By no tune I assume no changing of any of the characteristics of the car (ride height, gear ratios, etc.) and no modding (upgrading turbo?). Is this correct?
  17. B-Spec Bob

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    SSR5 online lobby with RH tyres, 5/5 brake bias, no rigidity improvements and fuel depletion off:
    [Stock Transmission km/h]
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    Div2
    
    RE Amemiya RX7 '06
    512pp 337hp 1100kg [280]
    1:21.772
    Code:
    Div1B
    
    Autobacs Garaiya '08
    511pp 344hp 1175kg [270] - Chosen based on average lap times.
    1:22.297
    
    Subaru BRZ GT300 '12
    518pp 361hp 1150kg [270]
    1:22.509
    Code:
    Div1
    
    Lexus IS350 GT300 '08
    513pp 333hp 1150kg [270]
    1:22.988
    Only brake bias and oil change allowed.
    Last edited: Jul 15, 2017
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  18. Ben Hamilton

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    so is the meet and greet on this sunday (16th) or next sunday??
    also im in div 2 so ill have to drive the RX7 right??
  19. Hatfield

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    GT300 thread has the correct dates:

    Track list (event date)
    Meet and Greet: 23/7

    Round 1: Suzuka Circuit 2014 - TBA laps x 2 races - 30/7
    Round 2: Daytona Road - TBA laps x 2 races - 6/8
    Round 3: Nurburgring GP/F - TBA laps x 2 races - 13/8
    Round 4: Circuit de Spa-Francorchamps - TBA laps x 2 races - 20/8
    Round 5: Silverstone GP - TBA laps x 2 races - 27/8
    Fathers Day Bye 3/9
    Round 6: Autodromo Nazionale Monza - TBA laps x 2 races - 10/9
    Round 7: Fuji Speedway - TBA laps x 2 races - 17/9
  20. Razorpod50

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    Im doing some testing and maybe a race or two tonight if we have enough runners if anyone is interested 16/7.8pm
    Welcome to join me.