Season 5 Car selection (phase 1)

With all the excitement around the Pagnian competition Season 5 organisation has been delayed.

So I'd like to hear from the members to suggest cars they would like to race in season 5. The options in the arcade car list are diminishing, so i'd be interested to know if we want to start racing garage cars. We could implement a rule to have people to publish their setups so that not everyone needs to spend their week working out a good setup. Regardless, i have found that the time difference between a good setup and a great setup is minimal. Typically if you are way off the pace then you have more to learn about the car/track rather than the setup.

So suggest away.

OK, Season 1 was a high powered AWD car on slicks
Season 2 was a FR race car on slicks
Season 3 was a mid-power FR sports car on sports tyres
Season 4 was a high power MR sports car on staggered tyres

To keep things interesting I suggest a FF car. Just to mix it up a bit, plus there isn't really any super high powered FF cars there (unless you mod the crap out of one).

I like the idea of garage cars as the arcade garage is diminishing fast in options, it means everyone would have to buy one if they didn't have whatever it was. Maybe stick only to premium vehicles so they are easy to purchase. In terms of mods/setups, I would suggest just saying everything must be set to default and no modications (apart from an oil change). It will have to be self-enforcing though, but I would be happy to rely on the honesty of my fellow racers not to throw on a ECU chip or airfilter for a couple extra HP!

This way, it still keeps the sunday races simple and easy to get into. I think there are plenty of other series that allow the tuning.

I've voted and gone with the majority but I'm happy to drive what ever we decide to drive as a group

I think there's still a season or 2 in the arcade garage.
Putting my hand up again for 2-car format.

Would add that extra strategic element over the season to keep interest levels up.
Cars wouldn't need to be perfectly matched, as long as they're close most rounds.

'66 Cobra 427 vs '07 GTR ? Grunt vs Grip !

My point exactly, pre season 4! and boy....didn't interest levels die in the arse.

Im with Aza, i will be happy to race whatever is decided by the group. i did vote arcade for the fact of having it simple, i feel the only way to have the garage as an option is to allow full mods, and just applying a PP cap and tyre restriction, otherwise the rules are to hard to govern and no way to enforce honesty...

Sounds good to me Castro.

I think we should keep using arcade cars. It just makes it so much more simple, and doesn't disadvantage those who dont have the time or the knowledge to tune. I think we need to keep to sunday league to stock cars. I like knowing that every car is the same and basically the only advantage someone has over me is talent..

I agree with Dougz on the tuning/modifications part. As I mentioned before, to allow tuning in the Sunday league goes against the whole reason that series was started. To be an accessible and open way to get into clean, fun and yet serious racing. There are other series being run within this site that allow tuning to satisfy those who have the talent & patience to do that.

If the consensus is though that using garage cars cannot be enforced in regards to the use of modifications etc, then sticking with the arcade list is fine by me.

I voted for arcade again this season as keeping it simple is one of the attractions for this community's racing, and like doug said, knowing that its someones talent that puts them ahead of you rather than them figuring out some ride height config thats just naturally faster (i have a memory of the first seasonal time trial being decided basically on a wierd ride height anomaly...). But of course, im prepared to beleive everyone here is here for honest racing therefore some level of transparency wound counter this sufficiently for a garage based PP limit if we need to.

But i dont think we need to go there yet as im sure a good season could be had from the 3 WRC cars or the good old lancer vs wrx which would offer some car variation/choice, good speed, and comparable performance (i believe) for at least another season (plus stus recomendation above). I havent played the recomended garage enough to know more but these 3 popped out instantly as easy options for a multi-car scenario.

I feel there is still life in the Arcade garage yet.
And I would be willing to put my vote behind a multi-make format like others have suggested. Probably with a PP limit just to even things out further.
There is a good selection of cars in the 470-490PP range.

But personally I am a firm believer that slower cars could produce much closer racing than we've seen previously. So I also like the look of cars in the 360-380PP range. Of course we would have to have tyres chosen to match.

Yer I'm with sticking to Arcade for this main series for all the reasons above. You are all in the same car and its up to how you handle that car. Not with you on the slower car's though flood, i have had my closest races with the faster cars, the Mclaren this season and the castrol Toms Supra. The tamora was a pain to practice and racing was close until you made a tiny mistake then it took a lot of lonely laps to catch up. But that's just me, i like the fast cars with a bit of grip and you don't have to wait to long for the next bend, the slower cars you have to give them heaps less grip to make them half exciting which means you only got the cornering to look froward to after that long wait on the straights.

I think the 3 cars mentioned, (if they prove to be similar in actual performance) would be fantastic to see racing each other. I'm all for a multi car setup, but will most likely be racing regardless of the final decision. I voted for garage just to try something different, i like tuning but i don't think i'm any good at it lol.

Only issue with a multi arcade car format is that the cars are relatively low in performance (~470PP). Lower than the Tamora!

A PP limited garage multi car format could allow for the ~550PP performance people want and choice of car.