S2 First Car poll

Discussion in 'PCLOZ Past Seasons' started by Clevohead, Dec 12, 2015.

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Class of car for season 2?

Poll closed Dec 19, 2015.

  1. Formula/Open wheel

    6 vote(s)
    14.3%

  2. Prototype/LMP

    4 vote(s)
    9.5%

  3. GT Cars

    7 vote(s)
    16.7%

  4. Touring

    15 vote(s)
    35.7%

  5. Historic

    1 vote(s)
    2.4%

  6. Road

    6 vote(s)
    14.3%

  7. Karts

    2 vote(s)
    4.8%

  8. Oval/Stock Car

    1 vote(s)
    2.4%
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  1. Clevohead

    Clevohead Taswegian Ambassador Team Raceonoz

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    As title say this is the first car poll, this will dictate class of car we select.

    Once the class is selected we will then have a poll with the eligible cars.

    Poll will close Saturday 19/12/15
    Clevohead, Dec 12, 2015
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  2. COME_AND_GET_ME7

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    IMO I feel it would be best to simply throw around specific cars opposed to classes. Firstly PCars only has a small car list so we're already fairly limited in choice unlike Gran Truism's 1200+ lineup. Secondly what do you define historic? Thirdly I see having a vote by class resulting in the final car choice not being a true reflection on what the community wants to drive. This is because some classes have a lot more variety than others. Take the GT class for example it has everything from a ginetta GT5 through to a Zonda R, with the likes of Group 4 and 5 as well as Trans-Am also being classed as GT. Whereas Karts and stock cars literally only have 3 cars between them.
    COME_AND_GET_ME7, Dec 12, 2015
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    Just whittling them down CAGM. While there may be only a few cars in some classes, there are still quite a few cars overall, so any form of filtering is going to help.
    Ad2mny, Dec 12, 2015
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  4. COME_AND_GET_ME7

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    Yeah I know this pole has good intentions it's just that some of these classes are so broad that its highly unlikely for some classes not to contain atleast one of everyone's personal fave and as a result will scew the results towards these classes. Had each class been further broken up into its major classes then I'm sure this pole would have been more meaningful. Also given that in GT6 the only pole prior to throwing around specific cars is a Road vs Race then the pool of cars is only halved to 600. So PCars total car list of just over 100 isn't such a bad starting point after all?
    COME_AND_GET_ME7, Dec 13, 2015
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  5. Giant slayer

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    I think we should make clear If DLC vehicles are included or just the free DLC cars
    Giant slayer, Dec 13, 2015
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    And i think we should make it clear if GT class get up it won't be another GT3 car, everyseries we have run so far apart from beaus LMP1 series has been a GT3 car
    Benjamin J Smith, Dec 13, 2015
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    imo in sunday leagues, there should be no reason to run a previously used car (or class of cars in this case, meaning GT3) in another season both so that everyone gets a variety of driving experiences, and also because some drivers will do better in different cars so it shakes the competition up a little bit (not just the same old driver(s) winning all the time).
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  8. Clevohead

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    Free DLC only at this stage.
    Clevohead, Dec 13, 2015
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    Might be worth asking if people have it
    thebigRAGOO_14, Dec 13, 2015
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  10. COME_AND_GET_ME7

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    Well that automatically limits it to just 60. i'm sure a lot of the GT and touring car votes were made with the 86 GT4, GT1's, BMW BTCC and Merc CLK DTM in mind.
    COME_AND_GET_ME7, Dec 13, 2015
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  11. Clevohead

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    As a guide for the classes this is what I was using (please note: some cars listed may not be available/released on ps4)

    Formula Cars
    F1
    • Formula A (2011 F1)

    F2
    • Formula B (GP2)

    F3
    • Formula C (F3)

    F4
    • 2012 Formula Gulf FG1000

    F5
    • Formula Rookie (2011 Formula Ford)

    Prototype
    LMP1
    • 2009 Aston Martin DBR1-2
    • 2011 Audi R18 TDI LMP1
    • 2014 Audi R18 e-tron quattro
    • 2013 Marek PM06A
    • 2013 RWD Motorsports P30 LMP1
    • 2014 Toyota TSO40 Hybrid LMP1 - Japanese Car Pack

    LMP2
    • 2013 Alpine A450 LMP2
    • 2013 Oreca 03 LMP2
    • 2013 Marek RP 219D
    • 2013 RWD Motorsports P20 LMP2

    Prototype 2
    • 2012 Caterham SP 300/R
    • 2011 Radical SR-8

    Prototype 1
    • 2011 Palmer Jaguar JP LM
    • 2011 Radical SR-3

    LMP 900
    • 2002 Audi R8 LMP900
    • 2003 Bentley Speed 8 LMGTP
    • 1999 BMW V12 LMR
    • 1989 Sauber C9 Mercedes Group C - Limited edition

    GT Cars
    GT1X
    • 2012 Pagani Zonda R
    • 2013 RUF CTR3 SMSR - Modified Car Pack

    GT3/GTE
    • 2013 Aston Martin Vantage V12 GT3
    • 2013 Aston Martin Vantage GTE
    • 2013 Audi R8 LMS Ultra GT3
    • 2015 Audi R8 LMS - PC Mod-MachineDojo Moding Team
    • 2013 Bentley Continental GT3
    • 2012 BMW M3 E92 GT2
    • 2012 BMW Z4 GT3
    • 2015 Cadillac ATS-V.R GT3 - PC Mod-MachineDojo Moding Team
    • 2016 Callaway Corvette C7 GT3 - PC Mod-MachineDojo Moding Team
    • 2015 Chevrolet Corvette C7 GTE - #Soon
    • 2013 Ginetta G55 GT3
    • 2015 Lamborghini Huracan GT3 - PC Mod-MachineDojo Moding Team
    • 2016 Lexus RC-F - PC Mod-MachineDojo Moding Team
    • 2013 McLaren 12C GT3
    • 2012 Mercedes-Benz SLS AMG GT3
    • 2016 MecediesBenz AMG GT3 - #Soon
    • 2013 RUF RGT-8 GT3

    GT4
    • 2013 Aston Martin Hybrid Hydrogen Rapide S
    • 2012 Aston Martin Vantage GT4
    • 2012 BMW M3 E92 GT4
    • 2013 Ford Mustang Boss 302R1
    • 2013 Ginetta G55 GT4
    • 2015 Toyota 86 Rocket Bunny GT Edition GT4 - Japanese Car Pack

    Entry level GT
    • 2013 Ginetta G40 Junior

    Premier GT1
    • 1997 McLaren F1 GTR Longtail
    • 1998 Mercedes-Benz CLK-LM

    Touring
    Super Touring 2
    • 2012 Mercedes-AMG C-Klasse Coupé DTM - Limited edition

    Super Touring 1
    • 2013 Ford Falcon FG Australian V8 Supercar CotF - Work started

    TC2
    • 2012 BMW 320 TC
    • 2012 Ford Focus ST BTCC - DLC

    TC1
    • 2012 Renault Megane Trophy II - Work Started

    Renault Clio Cup
    • 2013 Renault Clio IV RS Cup

    2000 Super Touring
    • 1999 Renault Laguna BTCC - DLC

    Trans Am
    • 1989 Audi 90 IMSA GTO
    • 1997 Ford Mustang Cobra SCCA Trans-Am

    Karts
    Karts
    • 2011 Shifter Kart 125cc

    Super Karts
    • 2011 Shifter Kart 250cc Super Kart

    Historic
    Historic Touring Group 1
    • 1952 Mercedes-Benz 300SL W194
    • 1959 Aston Martin DBR1

    Historic Touring Group 2
    • 1974 BMW 2002 Turbo -
    • 1972 Ford Escort RS1600
    • 1966 Ford Mustang 2+2 Fastback
    • 1971 Mercedes-Benz 300SEL 6.8 AMG

    Group 5
    • 1978 BMW 320 Turbo Group 5
    • 1981 Ford Capri Zakspeed Group 5

    Group 6
    • 1978 Renault Alpine A442B - Work Started

    60's GT
    • 1965 Lotus 40 - Classic Lotus
    • 1967 Ford MK. IV - Limited edition

    Other
    • 1963 Aston Martin DP212 - DLC

    BMW M1 Procar Challenge
    • 1981 BMW M1 Procar - Limited edition

    Group A
    • 1991 BMW M3 E30 Group A
    • 1988 Ford Sierra RS500 Cosworth Group A
    • 1991 Mercedes-Benz 190E 2.5-16 Evolution II DTM

    Vintage FC
    • 1985 Lotus 98T Renault Turbo

    Vintage FB
    • 1972 Lotus 72D Cosworth
    • 1977 Lotus 78 Cosworth

    Vintage FA
    • 1962 Lotus 25 Formula 1 - Classic Lotus
    • 1969 Lotus 49 Cosworth V8

    Vintage Formula 3
    • 1967 Lotus 51 Formula Ford - Classic Lotus

    Vintage Stockcar
    • 1990 Caper Monterey Stock Car

    Road
    Production Super Cars
    • 2011 Ariel Atom 500 V8
    • 2011 Gumpert Apollo S
    • 2015 Lamborghini Aventador LP750-4 SV Roadster - PC Mod-MachineDojo Moding Team
    • 2013 McLaren 12C
    • 2013 McLaren P1
    • 2012 Pagani Huayra
    • 2009 Pagani Zonda Cinque Roadster - Modified Car Pack
    • 2013 Radical RXC Turbo - Coming December
    • 2012 RUF CTR3 Clubsport
    • 2013 RUF RT-12 R
    • 2014 W Motors Lykan Hypersport

    Track Day Club
    • 2011 Ariel Atom 300 Supercharged
    • 2011 Ariel Atom Mugen - Modified Car Pack
    • 2013 Audi R8 V10 Plus
    • 2012 BAC Mono
    • 2011 Caterham Superlight R500
    • 1994 McLaren F1 - Limited edition
    • 2011 Mercedes SLS AMG
    • 2013 RUF RGT-8

    GT Club
    • 2012 BMW 1M Coupe
    • 2015 Ford Mustang GT
    • 2013 Mercedes-Benz A45 AMG
    • 1999 Mitsubishi Evo VI Tommi Mäkinen Edition - Japanese Car Pack
    • 2005 Mitsubishi Evo IX FQ 360 - Japanese Car Pack
    • 2012 Mitsubishi Evo X FQ-400
    • 2014 Scion FR-S Rocket Bunny Edition - Japanese Car Pack
    • 1987 RUF CTR Yellowbird

    Touring Club
    • 2012 Audi A1 quattro
    • 2009 Ford Focus RS
    • 2014 Renault Megane RS
    • 2014 Scion FRS - Japanese Car Pack
    • 2014 Toyota GT 86 - Japanese Car Pack
    • 2014 Toyota 86 - Japanese Car Pack

    Entry Level Club
    • 2012 Caterham Classic

    Oval
    Focus Midget
    • Focus Midget

    Stock Car Semi Pro ?
    •USAR ProCup lookalike - Unconfirmed

    Stock car Pro
    • 2012 Ford Fusion NASCAR Stock Car - Alpha

    Indy Car
    • 2015 Dallara DW12 - DLC

    Vintage Indy Car
    • 1965 Lotus 38 Indy 500 - Classic Lotus
    • 1968 Lotus 56 Indy Car - DLC
    Clevohead, Dec 13, 2015
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  12. Clevohead

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    The free DLC? or the paid?
    Clevohead, Dec 13, 2015
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  13. COME_AND_GET_ME7

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    Here's the available cars given no paid DLC:

    Karts:
    125cc Shifter Kart
    250cc Superkart

    Road Cars:

    Road A
    Ariel Atom 500 V8
    Gumpert Apollo S
    Mclaren 12C
    Mclaren P1
    Pagani Huayra
    Ruf CTR3
    Ruf Rt 12 R (Free DLC)
    W Motors Lykan HyperSport (Free DLC)

    Road B:
    Ariel Atom 300 Supercharged
    Audi R8 V10 plus
    BAC Mono
    Caterham Superlight R500
    Mercedes-Benz SLS AMG
    Ruf RGT-8

    Road C1:
    BMW 1-Series M Coupe
    Mercedes-Benz A45 AMG
    Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution X FQ400

    Road C2:
    Audi A1 Quattro (Free DLC)
    Ford Focus RS
    Renault Megane R.S. 265

    Road D:
    Caterham Seven Classic
    Scion FR-S (Free DLC)

    Touring Cars:

    TC1:
    Renault Clio Cup

    Group A:
    BMW M3 E30 Group A
    Ford Sierra RS500 Bosworth Group A
    Mercedes-Benz 190E 2.5-16 Evolution2 DTM

    Historic Touring 2:
    Ford Escort Mk1RS1600
    Mercedes-Benz 300 SEL 6.8 AMG

    GT Cars:

    GT1X:
    Pagani Zonda R

    GT3:
    Aston Martin V12 Vantage GT3
    Audi R8 LMS Ultra
    BMW M3 GT
    BMW Z4 GT3
    Ginette G55 GT3
    McLaren 12C GT3
    Mercedes-Bens SLS AMG GT3
    Ruf RGT-8 GT3

    GT4:
    Aston Martin Rapide S Hydrogen Hybrid
    Aston Martin V8 Vantage GT4
    BMW M3 GT4
    Ford Mustang Boss 302R1
    Ginette G55 GT4

    GT5:
    Ginetta G40 Junior

    Group 5:
    BMW 320 Turbo Group 5
    Ford Zakspeed Capri Group 5

    TRANS-AM:
    Ford Mustang Cobra TransAm

    Vintage GT3:
    Mercedes-Benz 300SL (W194) (Free DLC)

    LMP:

    LMP1:
    Audi R18 TDI
    RP 339H
    P30

    LMP2:
    Alpine A450
    Marek RP 219D LMP2
    Oreca 03 LMP2
    RWD P20 LMP2

    LMP3:
    Caterham SP/300.R
    Palmer Jaguar JP-LM
    Radical SR3-RS
    Radical SR8-RX

    Open Wheel

    Modern:
    Formula A
    Formula B
    Formula C
    Formula Gulf 1000
    Formula Rookie

    Vintage:
    Lotus Type 49 Cosworth
    Lotus Type 49C Cosworth (Free DLC)
    Lotus Type 72D Cosworth
    Lotus Type 78 Cosworth
    Lotus Type 98T Renault Turbo

    NASCAR:

    Caper Monterey Stockcar

    A total pool of 72 cars up for selection. 62 once you remove GT3, Ginetta Junior and Formula B seeing they've already been used in a one make series or simply overused in the case of GT3's.
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    All of it
    thebigRAGOO_14, Dec 13, 2015
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    Audi A1 Qauttro is that under trans am or what?
    thebigRAGOO_14, Dec 13, 2015
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  16. COME_AND_GET_ME7

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    Audi A1 quttro is a hatchback. The Audi 90 quattro IMSA GT0 is the TransAm and is paid DLC
    COME_AND_GET_ME7, Dec 13, 2015
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    The free DLC shouldn't be an issue for people as all it requires is an internet connection and a download, in reality if you can't download that, there would be something wrong.

    The paid DLC is still off the table at this point in time as it has been a long standing Race on oz ruling that paid DLC is not used in Sunday leagues to aid in keeping accessible to all. Yes we know we can "share" car/tracks with some of the features with Pcars, but with previous issues with something as simple as pitting we have seen in side series' we are keeping away from that until it has been proven reliable by a side series with some Mods involvement.

    I hope this helps clear up any confusion.
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    So who hasn't purchased dlc??
    thebigRAGOO_14, Dec 13, 2015
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  19. COME_AND_GET_ME7

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    I'd say there's quite a few. Many simply don't play much PCars outside of Sunday league and community events thereby having no reason to purchase DLC. I'm sure many would be happy to purchase the specific DLC pack if it were to be used in a series but as far as season 2 is concerned I'm sure there's a gem to be found in the car list that shipped with the game.

    I'm fairly certain those like myself who have purchased every DLC to date are a minority.
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    COME_AND_GET_ME7, Dec 13, 2015
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    I don't and will not buy every dlc car/track pack. Some just don't interest me and I'd rather my subway over a :):):):)ty car I'm not going to drive... Mmmm subway
    Spidey_11, Dec 13, 2015
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