Season 4 - Division 1- Powered by TURTLE BEACH

I both agree and disagree with your statement about 2,3,4-5,6 (Sector 1) and im not sure if its the way it is worded but while I agree that Yes trying to pass there has a high probability of ending in a nightmare, it should not be the responsibility of the car ahead (the car being passed) to give up their spot and they have every right to defend (within the rules) if the battle is for position. I know you're coming from the perspective of wanting to minimise post race tears but thats an unrealistic expectation to put on drivers being passed.

It should always the responsibility of the car behind (the passing car) to overtake safely and if the move can't be done into Turn 2 at the end of the straight then they're just gonna have to suck it up and conform to the speed of the car being passed until the next available opportunity at Turn 7, trying to force a move otherwise in this section will only be the passing cars fault. It is this behaviour that should be deterred in the drivers briefing, not the other way around.

The only exception would be if the driver ahead makes a big mistake resulting in a significant speed differential meaning that a pass could be safely executed.

Disagree with this. It should be encouraged to stay on the racing line. It is no different to slower cars in multi class racing in which instance they are suppose to stay on the racing line and not swerve to the other side of the track every time they see a faster car in their rear vision mirror. This way the following driver has certainty over what the car in front is doing and won't have to worry about whether or not the car with the penalty will swerve suddenly to the other side of the track.

the way i read that is, if i get a cut track penalty, the guy behind me that has put the pressure on to cause my mistake, now gets penalised by having to go around me off the racing line. if i get cut track penalties i tend to pull as far to the side of the track as possible, rather than getting in someones way, as it was my mistake that caused the penalty. Thoughts?

iThe green astro turf on the exit of the Variante Alta is the racing line anyway, though it should never have been the case after the stupid reprofiling in '06...

If you get a cut corner penalty you are clearly off the track/ to the side, why would you be stubborn and try and return to the middle?

Aldo

ageee with this, I was the victim last season in two different occasions because the penalised slow car in front swevered at the last minute Right in front of me to try get off the racing line causing carnage where as if they just held there line all is good,

How is it a penalty? Had they not got a cut track penalty you would still have to pass them at some point. Consider it a free pass.

If theyre chasing the next person in line, making them come off the racing line to get around you after youve cut track would slow them down. different to defending your position, because if you are defending your position without going off track, then its just racing.

It depends on where you are on the track, if you are on the inside of a corner, cutting across the racing line at 60kmh is more likely to cause an accident by wiping out someone that is trying to pass you. I got a double last night at Bathurst, I got a bump coming into the chase hard under brakes and slightly cut the corner and got a 5 sec penalty, I was still on the racing line but decelerating quickly with cars coming up from behind. Coming through the right hander out of the chase I felt it was too dangerous to try and get to the other side of the track so I got up on the inside kerb to give as much room as I could and got a 10 second penalty for that as well.

The car being overtaken needs to know when to yeild and fight on at the next corner, not end up in the sand. Have done plenty of racing irl and a key part is knowing when you are beaten and hence when to yeild.

Yes but theres a difference in yielding when u know someone's had a good run and got you at the end of the straight fair and square and yielding from someone trying to barge through you in the tight first sector at imola. While im not paying the bills, i will always defend in the latter situation, especially in a league which should have some decent driving standards. Public lobby is a different story...

Unless we're at Macau, every corner should be an opportunity to fight for, and defend against position changes. Some places are stupid to try, but id like to think we're all smart enough to know when the guy alongside us has us beat into the next corner and not try some bollocks defensive manovure and ending up in a miserable sunday night for all involved. Its Division 1, we need to show we have our heads screwed on and prove we're not just good over a lap, but on the limit with a car alongside us too. We all have huge respect for that guy that can race door to door with anyone without chaos unfolding, so lets all try to be that guy. Look forward to Sunday for some hard racing

That is very well said beau.

That guy!

Could not agree more

Knowing when you are beaten .

The only thing that ticks me off is when a faster car catches up 2 seconds in one lap and the slower car does not let the faster car pass (blocks ). He should let him pass and
1.Try to pass him back
2. To let him go and see how good he is to stay with him !!!
3. Realise that the faster car is quicker than he is !!!!!!!
4. And so on