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Kudos for throwing up a new idea @Hatfield , but no effing way, the GT6 weather is geared to swing to either full-dry or full wet, so if it goes full-wet it'll likely stay there for half the race or longer.

I seriously have better things to do than cruise around at 80% pace wondering if the munted weather system will come back to a reasonable level.

If it's that bad, then just lock the weather % and be done with it.

Tyre reg change is biggest buzzkill I think I've ever felt; after such a song & dance in the Track discussion thread too.

The key thing I'll say is even if less than 2% of drivers ever use the Hards, that's no reason to ban their use. The tyre regs offered so many benefits for people to practice & communicate, which will now never be felt with every race being the same. Getting people to put their minds to strategy is so integral to getting people to practise at all, meaning better races. The point of liberal tyre regs has been missed completely.

The illusion of free choice was beneficial, not the actual tyres themselves.

This sucks beyond measure. Now I know why Project CARS looks enticing.

Oh well. I won't mention it again until next season.

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Anyone in Div1 gonna use a H-pattern shifter (without clutch)? I plan to as a switch up from the paddles we've used recently. Dunno if it's a pace killer or not. I'll find out tomorrow.

That would bring a whole new meaning to the term 'Virtual Safety Car'. Is that just in case I get a 'virtual injury' if I crash?
The whole point of a safety car is in the name, it's not there to assist those who can't drive in wet conditions.

I fully agree, a simple rule that said you have to use a compound other than soft at some point during a race would have prevented anyone running an all softs strategy. I see no point in restricting it any further. It would be no harder to police but would allow people to get creative, especially in the enduro round.

Your choice of barely street legal, gooved slicks (sports tyres) is causing bucket loads of aquaplaning, resulting in "ridiculously difficult" handling.
Closest tyres to being period representative in-game (comfort tyres) are your typical all-weather road tyres with rain grooves that will solve all this safety car nonsense.

Or open it up to intermediates?

Again someone sees comfort tyres as the better tyre for this car. Real grooves in a real 70's style tyre for a 70's car.

But are you driving this season or are you racing this season

yes i am racing, but we are racing a road car with road car handling on road car suspension, with road car brakes.
Comfort tyres will not only suit the car better and be more realistic, they will give the driver more grooves to work with in the wet.

I would consider opening the tire regulations to comfort compounds for the wet round (if not all rounds). They are at least several seconds a lap faster and provide more predictable handling than the sports compounds at 100% wetness.

My thoughts on racing intermediates:

1. They perform no better than sports compounds at 100% wetness, and possibly even worse,
2. The idea of having racing tires of any kind on a 70s Prancing Horse seems absurd to me.

I'm all for comfort tyres only, wet or dry. Sports tyres gave way too much grip when we tried them the other night.

I have an idea on a "token" tire system:
Each compound is allocated points. For example:

• SH = 0 points
• SM = 1 point
• SS = 2 points

For a regular round, you are allocated 2 points. This means if you use softs for one stint, you must only use hards for the other stint(s), as you have used up all your points. Likewise, if you use mediums for one stint, you are able to use them for one more stint only. Use of the hard compound is unlimited.

For the weather round, the same rules as above apply, except comfort compounds can also be used without restriction.

For the sprint round, the compound is fixed (e.g. sport mediums).

For the endurance round, you are allocated 3 points. This means you can use softs for one stint, mediums for one stint, and hards for one stint. Or, you can use mediums for all three stints.

This is the best idea I've heard yet!

This confuses me because on fast, the fuel runs out any way. Monza would be 20 laps (40 min). Everyones going to stop once so tyres kinda become irrelevant.

i like that to, but how long do the SS last ?

If the fuel runs out faster than the tyres wear then there is no point running a hard tyre as you would be just gifting time to the opposition.

I'm baffled at this huge discussion with variable stratiegies when the races aren't anywhere near long enough to produce varying results. In past seasons when something like this has been attempted artificially (via far too fast wear rates and other methods) all it did was cause bottlenecks in the pit lane, and races would be ruined due to the broken stops.

If you guys are that desperate for strategy, just open up the tyres to hard/medium/soft and have at it.

This doesn't work in GT6, the grip advantage of the softs outweigh any durability advantages of the harder compounds. That's why we're trying to find a way to reduce over-reliance on the softest compound.

I did the math on it using my own times at Monza, 24 laps would produce a 45 min race.
If I ran softs to lap 15 then hards the rest, would produce about the same race time as mediums both stints.
Running longer on softs would be faster, but fuel will only last to about 18 at 5.25 litres per lap.
This is all theoretical, hasn't been tested to account for wear.
Based on this, if the pits were closed after 2/3 distance either strategy could win.