PS4 PCARS Season 2 Expressions of interest

Discussion in 'PCLOZ Past Seasons' started by Ad2mny, Oct 12, 2015.

  1. CobMcCool

    CobMcCool Professional Gold Member

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    Now I can't get it out of my head, thanks for that
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  2. stucar17

    stucar17 Moderator Team Raceonoz Gold Member Super ROOZ

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    Ok guys,

    First off huge thanks to the guys who helped with this, Especially Cob and Giant who spent lots of time, over and above the last four nights of 1am finishes ....we have found lots of things that will help in any future seasons of PCARS. I think we have examined and put to bed some of the things that were being put forward as reasons as to why we should head in either direction, which at the end of the day will benefit the community as a whole.

    After further testing last night we have come to the conclusion that it would be best to run the series as TUNING ALLOWED, as was originally announced.

    The reasoning....
    - after EXTENSIVE tire testing, we found that with the tuning prohibited, there were still occasions where drivers couldn't get fresh rubber when needed, and we couldn't replicate the issue to find a fix. This was after Giant created a new account to replicate a new car coming into the lobby. Even with the fuel "issue" being present (low fuel) in his car, he was able to get new tires when pitting, which was the complete opposite to what happened to BlueXR8 and Rotor the night before. Put simply, we couldnt replicate the issue, and try to find a fix....meaning there was a "chance" that drivers would be disadvantaged during the season. In this regard we felt that tuning, and the freedom to change tires openly could help to negate this possible issue.

    - Rain tires. We found in testing last night that some of the guys were going through the rain tires last night in 1 lap, while others were wearing as normal. The lobby was non tune and we had the 4 weather slots set to different settings. This will need more investigation before round 4 to see what may have caused the issue, HOWEVER, with the weather set to "rain" with no slots selected (rain was the only option) there didnt seem to be any issues with tire selection or wear.

    - The fuel issue. As has been highlighted by a few on here, there is a way around not having the default 90L of fuel for both qualifying and the race. We initially believed that this issue saw the tires not being changed when needed, but this was disproved last night. We agreed that having 1 driver on 45 ltrs for the race while everyone else is on 90l is an unfair advantage. For this reason, its only fair that we level this playing field as much as we can, and everyone will be advised of how much fuel you will need for the race, so you can put it in your strategy.

    - SETUPS. given we have decided to go down this path i would hope that there are setups provided to the masses, as previously promised

    - TEAMS CHAMPIONSHIP. I still think that this can run, HOWEVER, if you decide to participate in the teams champ you need to understand that TUNING COULD give your opponents a bigger advantage, affecting your position in that championship. Its not a huge issue, but you need to think about the following....will one of you div drivers who you are competing against give up their "possible" fast tune to you in the last race of the season. We would hope so, but at the end of the day drivers wanting a championship might not be so generous. ;). Just something to think about so make sure you let @@Hatfield know your intentions clear here
    http://www.raceonoz.com/forums/inde...pcars-cross-platform-teams-championship.2063/

    - LOBBY SETTINGS. we will still determine what these will be with regards to tire wear, but we are thinking either X2 or X3. FUEL WILL BE ON REAL

    - TIME SETTINGS; TBC, but i think if we set all the rooms to the same date and time might be the easiest ?

    We get and understand that running tuning wont be to everyones liking. However i think we have proven that while it does complicate the game a little more, it will give the less chance to create issues that disadvantages drivers competing.

    The car is very good out of the box, i imagine that there will be minimal tuning to be done, hopefully a few of the guys are able to help with that if you feel you are struggling.....i will need some guidance with fuel strats etc, but once i get my head around it will be able to help anyone that wants it....

    I hope, that given we made an informed decision as to why we went down this path, we see you all on the grid come the 14th, IF you don't plan on running now, please let me know so i can look at the divisions and make any necessary changes.

    stu
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  3. zuluwoffle

    zuluwoffle Team Driver

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    Thank you to everyone involved of all this extensive testing to provide an awesome season ahead in PCars. The countdown is on and I can't wait to get racing.
  4. garyw61

    garyw61 Gary Gold Member Super ROOZ

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    Yep, great stuff Stu and everyone involved. Thanks for your time and effort to get this sorted.

    Now on with the racing!
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  5. Rumbleshorts

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    Good to hear it's all been sorted well ahead of the starting round.

    Kudos to all that had the time to do the testing
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  6. stucar17

    stucar17 Moderator Team Raceonoz Gold Member Super ROOZ

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    Will try to get the lesser stuff sorted tonight so all is right to go and everyone can practice with the full race settings....
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  7. jc1186

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    Yeah agreed well done fellas! Was actually blown away by the determination to find the answers by all.
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  8. stucar17

    stucar17 Moderator Team Raceonoz Gold Member Super ROOZ

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    JC, whats the story with high brow, as i cant see where he is placed ? At this stage we have 4 full divs with 16 in each, did he get an entry in ?
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    jc1186 Rookie

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    I'll chase that up now Stu. Thought he got a lap time/entry in but maybe not then.

    *edit. Nope he didn't. He's at home and said he'll get it done soon (with the gf atm so who knows). Is he still going to be able to go into the appropriate division?

    Sorry for the dciking around as that means people may have to be bumped a division.
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  10. stucar17

    stucar17 Moderator Team Raceonoz Gold Member Super ROOZ

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    Will have to get a qual from him first and then check that all are still up for the season when I can check what dig he would be placed in
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    thanks for the pre-season testing guys, looking forward to 15-16 driver races ;) going to be hectic and fun with a pinch of drama!
  12. jc1186

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    I've gone ahead with a PC mate and won't be competing in Project Cars. High-Brow's going down the same route so count him out too.
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    Yeah, took the words right outta my mouth.
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    Clevohead Taswegian Ambassador Team Raceonoz

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    Why???
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  16. VARDZ

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    He is Q-U-I-C-K... He would have been up front somewhere... but that was with tuning off... JC admitted to knowing next to nothing about tuning hence his decision I guess...
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  18. thebigRAGOO_14

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    As far as I recall as soon as it was announced to be a tune series he withdrew. Then as result the decision was put on hold to accomodate until it was deemed no tune was too risky. What a piss take
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  20. beakeroo

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    It wasn't put on hold to accommodate tbh. It was put on hold to figure fact from fiction in terms of what worked and didn't in non tune lobbies. Still, I agree on the rest.