GT Sport Season 12 Division 4

Discussion in 'Gran Turismo Sunday Night League' started by Hatfield, Jul 9, 2020.

  1. Slartybar

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    Great first race! I struggled in quali and only managed to get a good clean lap in on the final lap, could have been a different outcome otherwise.
    I managed to get by d_karki and tfeccles from some small mistakes and got to a 5 second lead before pitting for a second set of SS's. When I came out I was behind @T F Eccles who must have put in some quick laps to undercut me. From then I was putting in consistent quick lap times in the high 1:01's but tfeccles was doing the same and I couldn't get get close enough. In the last 3 laps I saw that we were coming up to traffic so I pitted early for SM's to try and undercut but it wasn't enough and again tfeccles was just in front when he exited the pits on the last lap.
    It will be a different story for me next week. Nurburgring is not a good track for me
  2. T F Eccles

    T F Eccles Team Driver Gold Member

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    Yep, I think I'll be joining you on that one :cry:. Glad I had a strong start.
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  3. T F Eccles

    T F Eccles Team Driver Gold Member

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    A quick discussion in the team captains forum today re qualification for round 2 has suggested the following.

    For round 2 at N24h, given the lap time of approx 9mins, we run qualification in Practice/Race mode, do 1 out lap and 1 timed lap, park up when done. Additionally we start quali 5 mins earlier at 20:15 AEST.

    Thoughts?
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  4. Xtr3meNZer

    Xtr3meNZer Team Driver Gold Member

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    I know it's not my div - no discussion has opened there yet - but I do like that idea, also would be nice if the release of the drivers could be staged as well - maybe like 30 seconds each time, so that no one else can be involved with someone else coming off, which could be a huge disadvantage on this track, being accidentally bumped of the track by late braking etc in qualifying.
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  5. Ozglenn

    Ozglenn Team Driver Gold Member

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    I am happy to start 5-10 min earlier just as long as we do the full track and not the GP track as we have done in previous seasons
  6. Mezign

    Mezign Team Driver Gold Member

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    Ditch quali and run reverse championship standings grids all season :p
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  7. Hatfield

    Hatfield Teams Championship Chairman Team Raceonoz Gold Member Super ROOZ

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    I can be further up the grid!
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  8. Steve Neilson

    Steve Neilson Rookie Gold Member

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    Thoughts, I think this track should be f@#%÷d and burnt.
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  9. Xtr3meNZer

    Xtr3meNZer Team Driver Gold Member

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    :roflmao: Naw come on
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  10. stucar17

    stucar17 Moderator Team Raceonoz Gold Member Super ROOZ

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    Guys, just a very quick post to all divs with regards to protests.
    The stewards group finds it very hard to act on protests and driver standards without a replay. If you dont know how to save your replay please ask someone ! There are plenty of guys willing to help you.

    - At the end of your race, if you have an incident to show the stewards group please save your race and then record the incident and forward it to them, with a brief explanation of why you are protesting, and who it is against
    - If for some reason you cant get your replay and want something looked at, ask the room captain or another driver if they have a replay available, to access to incident you want looked at.
    - Even if a driver redresses an incident, you might like to save and send it on regardless. Particularly if that driver has a history of incidents
    - If you choose NOT to protest anything, or in fact, if you HAVE put in a protest, PLEASE do NOT make a fuss about it on the forum. Let the stewards group do its job, and then work out if you accept the decision or take it to appeal.

    Protests are something that need to be done right, as it holds all drivers to account, but also represents the integrity of the league in general. A high driving standard is something that ALL drivers should strive for.

    Thanks
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  11. Hatfield

    Hatfield Teams Championship Chairman Team Raceonoz Gold Member Super ROOZ

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    Round 2: Nürburgring 24h - 5 Laps - 20:30 - 2/8
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    WELCOME to Season 12!!
    As always please take 2 mins to read the following so you have an understanding of what is expected on race night......If you have any questions, or want clarification on any of the rules or regulations please ask!

    ROOM OPEN : Most room captains will 'try' to have rooms open by about 7:50 AEST. Please be on time, or let the room captain or div thread if you may be late. If all agree, the room may wait for you, Within reason. Please remember we have drivers from NZ, and later starts mean a much later night for them.
    QUALIFYING : 8:20 AEST. This round will be ONE out lap and ONE timed lap, then park on the left of the T1 hairpin. If the room is up early, drivers can complete the qually lap 5 mins early as long as room Captains give the go ahead. This will give the field more time to be spread out and drivers who join later (but still on time for 8:20) can jump in and complete their qually lap. Qualifying will occur in practice mode.
    RACE START TIME : 8:30 AEST (once qualifying has finished)

    LAG ISSUES / ROOM RESTARTS : This is up to the room host/captains. If there is a Disconnection (or cars stuck on grid) at race start, it is sporting to try to get them back in, which may mean a new room to be set up. I always look at 1 or 2 starts if required due to DSC, but as it gets later everyone needs to be aware of getting things going. Please be as reasonable as you can with this....
    SIGHT ISSUES: Ensure that you can see everyone on track. Before qualifying, exit to lobby and spend 30 seconds in spectate mode, scroll through the list of drivers on track and make sure that you can see their car. If you can't see somebody (and they are confirmed as being on track), exit the lobby, re-join, and check again.

    FALSE START CHECK : Please note that the start type is Grid Start with False Start Check
    Please practice this so you know what to expect. Simply, you hold the brakes on until the lights go from all lit, to none lit


    TURN 1 LAP 1 : This has the potential to ruin someones night if we don't use our heads! Should be everyone's goal to get through the first phase with ZERO contact. Give room and run in your 'lane' till you have space to run the normal race line. If your unassisted tap causes someone to spin, you need to redress.

    TRACK LIMITS : As we are running with 'track limit penalties" OFF, we will run with our usual Raceonoz track limit regulations. This means you MUST have at least 2 wheels on the ripple strip OR white line that defines the track limit. If you do make a mistake and have to run outside the limits, be aware that you are not allowed to gain any advantage.

    CONTACT : Is to be avoided at all times..... If you rear end someone and gain an advantage, YOU ARE EXPECTED to give the spot back. Side by side 'rubbing' is racing, within reason, but all drivers are expected to give racing room.
    If you bump someone and they end up off track or teleport back to the corner entry, you must wait for them to rejoin and get back up to speed.
    Show each other RESPECT! It is difficult enough to drive the car at the limit on your own, without someone squeezing you within a millimeter of the grass.
    So be patient and show respect to your fellow drivers.
    If you are redressing contact, please do so out of the way of other cars, off the racing line, or if there isn't much room, off track.

    TYRES : Sports Mediums (mandatory) & Sports Softs

    PIT ENTRY :
    Please make an attempt to use the pit entry / exit lines. Failure to do so, where an incident/impede is caused, will have consequences
    PIT EXIT :
    Please use the pit exit lane and be aware of cars approaching out of T1.
    NOTE: Pitting is NOT COMPULSORY

    BLUE FLAGS : Please observe blue flags, and move out of the way of faster cars if you are being lapped. Failure to observe blue flags WILL result in a penalty

    STEWARDS GROUP AND RACE PROTESTS : This season the stewards will be will be @JonoStan96 @Viperzed & @emmo46. If you have reason to protest, please SAVE YOUR REPLAY, and then let them know via a PM.
    DO NOT BLOW UP IN THE FORUM OR IN THE ROOM CHAT. There have been multiple incidents where the replays from drivers have been different, so its true that sometimes things are not as black and white as they may seem. You have until MIDNIGHT, Monday night to register your protest via PM. Stewards will ask for video evidence from both drivers or room captain to make any decision.

    SAVE YOUR REPLAY : If the room host can ask all drivers to save their replay would be good before exiting the room.....once they exit out and the option goes, it cant be retrieved!

    PARTY CHAT : With the new party chat feature able to hold up to 16 participants, each division will have an open party chat for those that wish to use it. We recommend this especially to new drivers as they may ask questions about how the night is run or to clarify anything they are not confident on.

    PARKING UP : If you are unable to continue to race, please enter the pits and leave your game paused without selecting tyres (or no tyres) so that your car stays parked in the pits. Parking up off track activates yellow flags in the sector, and even though penalties are off, we have reports of penalties occurring for passes happening near the parked car.

    FINAL NOTE: Could all drivers please confirm their attendance for this Sunday by 'liking' this post in your division. If you are unable to attend, please post in reply as much in your division. This way we can figure out our reserves or if the room can start early in advance.
    (ALSO IF YOU KNOW YOU CANNOT ATTEND, PLEASE POST SAYING SO, SO THAT RESERVES CAN BE ORGANISED IN ADVANCE)
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  12. Hatfield

    Hatfield Teams Championship Chairman Team Raceonoz Gold Member Super ROOZ

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  14. Mezign

    Mezign Team Driver Gold Member

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    Worth noting you can set your PS4 broadcast and recording settings to capture an hour of footage (which will cover most qualifying and races in full) and then snip and upload in the PS4 editing program. Sometimes people may unknowlingly have their GT replay folder full and can't save it. At the very least they can record their real footage. If anything this should be considered more valuable for stewarding as they can make a judgement on what the driver saw rather than reviewing 15 different angles that aren't relevant in the moment.
  15. Hatfield

    Hatfield Teams Championship Chairman Team Raceonoz Gold Member Super ROOZ

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    of course, as long as we remember, 'I didn't see him' isn't a valid excuse
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    Mezign Team Driver Gold Member

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    And that's what showing real footage proves. Replays prove nothing because they don't explain each drivers perspective, and doesn't prove when they weren't using radar. Radar proves everything. If you get turned because you didn't have your radar on and cut over the nose of the other driver you're the one at fault regardless of how the incident looks from the replay.
  17. stucar17

    stucar17 Moderator Team Raceonoz Gold Member Super ROOZ

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    In the PCARS league, i ask for footage from both drivers so it can show both perspectives of any incident. Ive seen in the past in both GT and Pcars that both replays were completely different of the same incident. Got to love that netcode !
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    stucar17 Moderator Team Raceonoz Gold Member Super ROOZ

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  19. T F Eccles

    T F Eccles Team Driver Gold Member

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    Attention Div 4 drivers, given the lengthy qualification period tonight,
    • I'm going to open qualifying at 8:10pm AEST.
    • This will be signalled by two room resets.
    • A reminder that tonight we'll be running in Practice/Race mode and you get 1 out lap, 1 flyer, park up when done. Pits are CLOSED.
    As a further suggestion, either stagger your exit for the out lap by calling out you are leaving then who is ever left in the pits count to 10 before exiting or hang back on track to leave a gap. Hopefully this will reduce any hiccups caused by drivers going off rack etc.
  20. Ozglenn

    Ozglenn Team Driver Gold Member

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    The internet has been out here in Melbourne all morning there had been a major cyber attack hopefully it's back up tonight