PCARS Season 2 - Div 4

Discussion in 'PCLOZ Past Seasons' started by stucar17, Jan 10, 2016.

  1. stucar17

    stucar17 Moderator Team Raceonoz Gold Member Super ROOZ

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    Ok guys, Welcome to season 2 of PCARS !

    Please bare with us while we sort through the finer details. For our new members please familiarize yourself with the guide linked below. Our "overall" aim is to try to provide everyone with clean, fun racing. Any issues please let us know.

    Welcome guide for new members : http://raceonoz.com/forums/index.php?threads/welcome-guide-for-new-members.383/
    How to qualify : http://raceonoz.com/forums/index.php?threads/gt6-gtloz-how-to-qualify-for-sunday-league.830/

    http://raceonoz.com/forums/index.ph...-qualify-for-project-cars-sunday-league.1813/

    CAR : Mercedes Benz 190E Touring Car
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    TUNING REGS : Allowed
    TIRE AND WEAR REGS : Tire wear X2 - Fuel REAL
    DATE AND TIME : Room set to 10th march, race time 12pm. Time progression - real
    ROOM HOST : nathancarhead
    ROOM CAPTAINS : Clevohead + nathancarhead
    QUALIFYING & RACE TIMES : 8:10 Qual and 8:20 Race Start Sydney Time (Pending Room Issues)
    TRACKS :
    R1.
    Snetterton 300 - 26 laps
    R2. Donnington GP - 32 laps
    R3. Watkins Glen Short - 40 laps
    R4. Dubai National - WET ROUND - 30 laps. (finer details of weather TBC)
    R5. Sonoma GP - 31 laps
    R6. Oulton Park International - 30 laps
    R7. Hockingheim GP - 1.5 hr ENDURO - 48 laps

    START DATE : 14th FEB
    MEET AND GREET : 7th FEB

    PROVISIONAL GRID (may be changed based on new entries or online compatibility issues)
    1. Privateer - Freddy_p33
    2. TLR - webnomad
    3. RZR - Raedonwolf
    4. Nathancarhead - back when PS4 fixed
    5. PRT - Dev1lman
    6. TLR - Zharvs92
    7. RZR - Bastian Dalziel
    8. SAR - Fezza
    9. SAR - Rocketrod
    10. Privateer - Clevohead - #23 Mögernig Auotolacke
    11. BHR - Higgs7664
    12. BHR - Rumbleshorts
    13. RZR - colin
    14. GRT - Bevo_17
    15. HTO - Purpledog
    16. PRT - mitchymoo09

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  2. stucar17

    stucar17 Moderator Team Raceonoz Gold Member Super ROOZ

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    Ok guys, we are slowly getting through the set up for the new season, please bare with us....not long now.

    Emmo has a PROVISIONAL drivers list for each division out the back, i will post them up in the OP of each thread hopefully today or tomorrow once the mod team looks over them. REMEMBER THEY ARE PROVISIONAL AND THERE IS ALWAYS ADJUSTMENTS BEFORE THE START OF THE SEASON. Either through new drivers qualifying, conflicts between drivers connections etc, etc etc.....if you see someone who is CLEARLY out of position please PM me or one of the mod team and we will have a look at it. Dont make a scene in the thread ;)

    We are YET TO CONFIRM TUNE - NON TUNE HOWEVER there is a growing belief through testing that the NON TUNE system wont work with the random fuel loads and drivers "could" be stuck with a fuel load that WONT get them to the end of the race as this option wont let you pit.

    THE UPSIDE of TUNING is that it eliminates this issue, while at the same time opening up a wider range of tracks due to gearbox and suspension adjustments to suit all the tracks.

    PLEASE BARE WITH US WHILE WE LOOK AT THE OPTIONS. Remember too, we have a patch due soon which "could" throw a spanner in the works just to give us all the :):):):)s !:eek:

    Cheers Stu / Mod team
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    stucar17 Moderator Team Raceonoz Gold Member Super ROOZ

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    ok guys, provisional grids are up in the OP

    We have already had a few questions or suggested adjustments so will be looking at this in the next day or two.

    Room hosts are yet to be confirmed, but room captains have been suggested, if you see your name there but don't want to do it please let me know, as with hosting, if you feel your connection is good enough to do it please put up your hand ;)

    Please remember that this is all an inexact science, and could all be thrown wide open with new entries and also the patch due to hit in the next week. We trust you understand any driver changes or adjustments we make are well considered and in the best interests of all our members
    Cheers stu / mod team
  4. beakeroo

    beakeroo Professional

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    I reckon rocketrod will be looking good for a D4 championship win.
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  5. VARDZ

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    Clevohead Taswegian Ambassador Team Raceonoz

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    Hatfield GT7 League & Teams Championship Organiser Team Raceonoz Gold Member Super ROOZ

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    Hatfield GT7 League & Teams Championship Organiser Team Raceonoz Gold Member Super ROOZ

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    You running as privateer again clevo?
  9. Clevohead

    Clevohead Taswegian Ambassador Team Raceonoz

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    I still dunno... Would be nice to be in a team, but also don't need the crap that went on a year or two back...

    Let me think about it and get back to you.
  10. Hatfield

    Hatfield GT7 League & Teams Championship Organiser Team Raceonoz Gold Member Super ROOZ

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    we deal with less crap now...you were in the convo so you know things went quite smoothly
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  11. Bevo_17

    Bevo_17 Rookie

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    Man, I gotta race with 5-31? Damn
  12. Kieran_B33

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    @pykeybraa145 lmao
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    Nah mate @Nathancarhead will beat him at Midfield just like he did to @Bevo_17
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    looking forward to project cars now i have my full set up
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    It's a great game. You're in for a treat.
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    Hi all,

    We have had several complaints against a particular drivers antics, now we know this was not a Rooz sanctioned event, but in any Rooz based practises etc.. especially with newly recruited members we should be following the racecraft guide especially when it is Rooz reputation at stake.

    After all, the lure of clean gentlemanly like racing is what bought most of us here, please brush up on the following and please keep it clean out there.

    Any further complaints and we will be forced to take things further.

    Kind regards
    The Mod team.


    The Good Racecraft Guide

    This article will cover what the cleanest gentleman drivers here consider to be good racecraft, etiquette/manners, & general sportsmanship. ...
    The following is based on .. many experiences of gentlemanly racing with some the cleanest forum members out there online over the last few years, ...in GT5 Prologue...GT5 [and iRacing].

    [This article reflects what is considered proper race etiquette at ROOZ and is intended to supplement the existing ROOZ Rules & Regulations - http://raceonoz.com/forums/index.php?threads/racing-rules-regulations.70/.] [VBR from GTPlanet is acknowledged as the original author of this guide.]


    Defending Your Position:

    An experienced racer will take whatever line he feels necessary into any given corner in order to defend & maintain his place, he is entitled to do so as he has track position over the pursuing driver, remember that the fastest line is not always the winning one. It is the other chaps job to force him into an error, whilst still driving cleanly of course, or wait for one to occur naturally & then take advantage of it, albeit in the proper fashion.

    An inexperienced racer will, in his endless optimism, tend to stuff it up the inside at every unavailable opportunity when trying to pass, imagining he is driving well but making far too much contact & causing many unnecessary incidents. Also, some lacking in good racecraft tend to drive right up to & into the driver in front, as they do not have the common sense to adjust their throttle & braking to account for following in the slipstream of another. You will notice that drivers who have good racecraft make very little contact when following & passing others on track.


    Overtaking & Being Overtaken:

    When being overtaken up the inside, on the run up to a tight high speed corner like 130R on Suzuka for instance, the competitive driver with good racecraft recognises when the battle is lost & will yield by coming off the throttle or even braking a little if necessary, so that both cars can make the apex of the corner at pretty much full racing speed. The aggressive driver will carry on round the outside at full throttle in a dangerous attempt to defend his position, which is clearly already lost, this kind of optimism can lead to a catastrophic & entirely unnecessary incident.

    If both cars do somehow manage to make it through the corner side by side, which obviously results in lower cornering speeds, the bad driver has now let the rest of the field catch up some, let the the drivers ahead increase their lead or sometimes both. Not only is it counter productive, it is also bad manners, you will not see top class racers executing such mindlessly aggressive do or die maneuvers.

    When attempting to overtake up the inside, on the run up to a tight high speed corner like 130R on Suzuka for instance, sometimes you are not close enough to pull it off. The discerning driver knows when this is the case & will yield by coming off the throttle or even braking a little if necessary, so as to not cause an incident, there is after all only 1 racing line through 130R. The aggressive or overly optimistic driver goes for it regardless, stuffs it up the inside, causes an incident, & puts his poor racecraft on display for all to see.

    You will not see mature racers out on track performing in this way, they get their overtaking done well before the apex of such corners. However, a possible exception to these scenarios might be when two intelligent drivers are equally alongside each other & battling for position on the final lap, where driving slower & side by side through 130R to keep track position would lead to a win, or higher finishing position.

    When the driver of the car in front has made an error & gone wide into a corner, the well mannered driver behind will go for the overtake but leaves just enough room for him as he accelerates out, this is because he knows that the other car is still going round on the outside of the track. An inexperienced driver, or one with bad manners, will also go for the overtake but accelerates out of the corner at full speed using all of the proper racing line as if he is the only one on track. This leads to contact, pushing the other driver off track, or even an incident involving multiple cars if battling in a pack. You will not see gentlemanly racers causing this kind of unnecessary incident through such a lack of manners.

    The correct or optimal racing line in certain corners, like the last 2 turns at Fuji for instance, can look very wide to the untrained eye. The undiscerning racer cannot tell the difference between a driver taking the correct racing line, & one going wide into these corners, he thinks the chap in front has made an error & stuffs it up the inside in a futile effort to overtake. When the driver in front accelerates towards the apex, the driver behind now finds he has placed his car in the wrong position, & there is contact. Once again by slowing both cars up, the bad driver has let the chaps in front pull away some & the those behind catch up. The intelligent racer knows there is usually no real advantage to this, & does his overtaking on the following straight, or when he sees someone has actually gone wide in these types of corners.

    When an experienced & thoughtful racer is being overtaken in slower/wider corners, he knows where the other driver is on track & leaves him just enough room so that they can drive around together side by side, he takes a different line while still maintaining a reasonable amount of speed. The aggressive or unthoughtful racer sticks to his line, turns into the other driver & causes unnecessary contact, as he is not discerning enough to make the correct adjustment to his line. Drivers with good racecraft have the ability to adapt quickly to various situations, to make better judgements, & tend to avoid & not cause as many incidents.


    Drafting

    It is considered extremely unsporting to weave about left & right all over the track trying to stop your opponent from drafting you, it is also quite undignified, & not at all gentlemanly (do not confuse this with blocking by weaving to stop another driver from passing you, which as you already know, is against the OLR). A well mannered & intelligent racer may choose to take a variety of different lines through corners to try to minimise the amount of draft his opponent gets, he is entitled to take any line he wishes being the driver in front. Also, when coming onto the straight, he may continue turning past the track out point, & take a different line down it. From then on however, manners dictate that he only has 1 move either left or right to choose his line into the next turn, this should be done early & slowly enough to give other drivers following behind a fair chance to react, lest there be an otherwise avoidable incident.

    When drafting in a pack down the straight heading for a turn, the experienced driver near the back knows he is drafting a car that is drafting other cars, & is thus travelling significantly faster than everyone else. He also knows that he will need to brake much earlier than the others to avoid contact by the end of the straight, especially if the chaps in front are going in 3 or 4 abreast & there is no room to pass. The optimistic driver still thinks he can overtake them all & come out in 1st place, he carries on, brakes way too late, & ploughs through those in front causing chaos & ends up off track, in the sand or having to wait for those he hit. Experienced racers hardly ever find themselves in this position, on the rare occasions they do, it's usually just down to braking errors, & certainly not due to wildly optimistic overtaking maneuvers.

    When overtaking another car right near the end of a straight, it is good manners to leave the other driver his line, & stick to your own. It is bad manners to quickly swerve in front of the car you have just passed, take his line & brake. This is because you will be travelling much faster due to drafting him, & will have to brake significantly earlier, the other driver will have almost no time to react by changing his line or braking point. This kind of bad racecraft can lead to many unnecessary incidents going into turns at the ends of straights, you will not see the more experienced & well rounded drivers performing this kind of maneuver.

    When a thoughtful racer finds himself drafting a different make of car down a straight, that's faster but with less braking power & slower round corners, he pulls out of the draft much earlier than usual. This is so he can out brake him going into the next turn, without running into the back of him. The unthoughtful racer carries on oblivious to the fact that he is just about to cause a major incident. Good racecraft also involves taking into account the diverse range of vehicles, tunes & personalities on track & how this can dynamically alter the way the race pans out, through the various & ever changing situations as they unfold.
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    Have entered meet and greet in to my calendar, if not before I will see you then.
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    Enter via my chat room . Don't be shy :ninja: