PCARS Season 2 - Div 4

Discussion in 'PCLOZ Past Seasons' started by stucar17, Jan 10, 2016.

  1. Bevo_17

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    I'm in Echuca till satday
  2. Benjamin J Smith

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    All good mate make sure you tell us on here when you get back.
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  4. Benjamin J Smith

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    So excited for your return mate!, now we can all practice for this season with you
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  5. stucar17

    stucar17 Moderator Team Raceonoz Gold Member Super ROOZ

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    Ok guys, I will be updating the driver lists tomorrow (Tuesday) and will also release the track list tomorrow at 3PM. Has been a big job, and i am pretty sure i dont have it absolutely perfect, so be gentle with us ! If there is an issue please PM me and i will work through it. In the interest of transparency i have dropped myself to Div 3 as the drivers who have submitted qual times were faster than mine, and i am unsure of the pace of some of our new members in div 2, so i wasn't going to drop them in favor of myself.

    I can confirm that this season will be TUNING PERMITTED. The reason for this is that we thought we had the fuel glitch covered but it seemed to happen again with a few who had adjusted their settings but still got nailed. We needed to make a call to give everyone a chance to adjust the car to their liking, and this was a better option for us than having drivers disadvantaged with a limited amount of fuel, and not able to get to the end of the race. It also open up the strategy aspect which is something that could be easily tweaked in GT6 settings....as we move through the season i am sure that we will see things to make better for season 3, but this was the lesser of 2 evils..

    I have to confess that i have always been a supporter of nontune series for the simple fact that everyone knows that its 90% driver dependent, however given we have members who has stated they are willing to help with setups we should be ok. That said, it is no certainty that next season will allow tuning, we will have to assess at the end of the season and work out what is best.

    The car itself is pretty good straight out of the box so there really shouldnt be too much of a need to adjust much, perhaps a softer suspension will help all of us !

    I will not be adjusting the track list in light of tuning, even though it opens up all tracks. The reason for that is the shortlisted tracks are all pretty good for the car, and gear boxes wont really need to be tweaked much so that helps to minimize the amount of tuning needed.

    Again, apologies for the delay in getting all this to you, but here is hoping that we have a great season filled with close, hard but most importantly fair racing.....
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    stucar17 Moderator Team Raceonoz Gold Member Super ROOZ

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    guys, hold the though on tuning please....for an explanation see the expressions of interest thread.....

    Will still be releasing the track list and amended driver divs today
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    stucar17 Moderator Team Raceonoz Gold Member Super ROOZ

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    @emmo46 , rocketrod is listed but i dont seem to be able to find him in the forum....differennt name ??? Also is "high Brow" under a different name? Cant find him in the div lists either

    Ok guys track list has been released.....see OP for details.
    While the grids are still provisional at this stage, i cant see there being much of a change unless we get some super fast qual laps from new entrants.....if that happens will have no hair left.....

    The tune / non tune debacle should be sorted soon, apologies for the screw around with that....i take the full blame for it , not testing as much as i should have.....:poop:

    If you DONT INTEND racing this season please let me know asap so we can continue to sort things out......and try to stay on top of things.....if i dont hear from you we can assume you will be there for round 1 on the 14th...

    Stu
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  8. Rumbleshorts

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    Been keeping an eye on developments, count me in for round 1 still @stucar17
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    have added rocketrod above.....i think his forum name is @Rod
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    I can captain @stucar17.

    As for hosting duties, does any of our drivers in this div have fibre NBN or some other super net connection???
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    Ok guys,

    First off huge thanks to the guys who helped with this, Especially Cob and Giant who spent lots of time, over and above the last four nights of 1am finishes ....we have found lots of things that will help in any future seasons of PCARS. I think we have examined and put to bed some of the things that were being put forward as reasons as to why we should head in either direction, which at the end of the day will benefit the community as a whole.

    After further testing last night we have come to the conclusion that it would be best to run the series as TUNING ALLOWED, as was originally announced.

    The reasoning....
    - after EXTENSIVE tire testing, we found that with the tuning prohibited, there were still occasions where drivers couldn't get fresh rubber when needed, and we couldn't replicate the issue to find a fix. This was after Giant created a new account to replicate a new car coming into the lobby. Even with the fuel "issue" being present (low fuel) in his car, he was able to get new tires when pitting, which was the complete opposite to what happened to BlueXR8 and Rotor the night before. Put simply, we couldnt replicate the issue, and try to find a fix....meaning there was a "chance" that drivers would be disadvantaged during the season. In this regard we felt that tuning, and the freedom to change tires openly could help to negate this possible issue.

    - Rain tires. We found in testing last night that some of the guys were going through the rain tires last night in 1 lap, while others were wearing as normal. The lobby was non tune and we had the 4 weather slots set to different settings. This will need more investigation before round 4 to see what may have caused the issue, HOWEVER, with the weather set to "rain" with no slots selected (rain was the only option) there didnt seem to be any issues with tire selection or wear.

    - The fuel issue. As has been highlighted by a few on here, there is a way around not having the default 90L of fuel for both qualifying and the race. We initially believed that this issue saw the tires not being changed when needed, but this was disproved last night. We agreed that having 1 driver on 45 ltrs for the race while everyone else is on 90l is an unfair advantage. For this reason, its only fair that we level this playing field as much as we can, and everyone will be advised of how much fuel you will need for the race, so you can put it in your strategy.

    - SETUPS. given we have decided to go down this path i would hope that there are setups provided to the masses, as previously promised

    - TEAMS CHAMPIONSHIP. I still think that this can run, HOWEVER, if you decide to participate in the teams champ you need to understand that TUNING COULD give your opponents a bigger advantage, affecting your position in that championship. Its not a huge issue, but you need to think about the following....will one of you div drivers who you are competing against give up their "possible" fast tune to you in the last race of the season. We would hope so, but at the end of the day drivers wanting a championship might not be so generous. ;). Just something to think about so make sure you let @@Hatfield know your intentions clear here
    http://www.raceonoz.com/forums/inde...pcars-cross-platform-teams-championship.2063/

    - LOBBY SETTINGS. we will still determine what these will be with regards to tire wear, but we are thinking either X2 or X3. FUEL WILL BE ON REAL

    - TIME SETTINGS; TBC, but i think if we set all the rooms to the same date and time might be the easiest ?

    We get and understand that running tuning wont be to everyones liking. However i think we have proven that while it does complicate the game a little more, it will give the less chance to create issues that disadvantages drivers competing.

    The car is very good out of the box, i imagine that there will be minimal tuning to be done, hopefully a few of the guys are able to help with that if you feel you are struggling.....i will need some guidance with fuel strats etc, but once i get my head around it will be able to help anyone that wants it....

    I hope, that given we made an informed decision as to why we went down this path, we see you all on the grid come the 14th, IF you don't plan on running now, please let me know so i can look at the divisions and make any necessary changes.

    stu
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  12. webnomad

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    thanks to the mod team for going through the cycles ...lots of work here guys....
    question - when will the team memberships be visible to match the liveries ?
  13. stucar17

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    @Hatfield ?
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    Hatfield GT7 League & Teams Championship Organiser Team Raceonoz Gold Member Super ROOZ

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    we were waiting for this announcement to get started with bidding.

    I will wait the weekend for any division or driver changes and start Monday (hopefully)
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    @Zharvs92 , i have added mitch to div 4, can you let me know when he has joined the forum please so we can get him all th einfo...cheers stu
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    Actually I might have a mate who would slot into D4 if there's still room. He bought the game and a wheel but just hasn't been on much yet.

    Still room in here @stucar17
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    stucar17 Moderator Team Raceonoz Gold Member Super ROOZ

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    Based on current grids, we are at capacity with 16 in each div....I expect that there may be a few no shows, so please keep him in the loop and anyone that withdraws, or doesnt show ( i contact after R1 to see if actually taking a spot) i can slot him in somewhere. Remember with drop round rules it wont be an issue missing R1. just hope everyone who has entered has the intention of running each week.
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    Understood.