THE GAMESMEN CUP - GT6 Division 1 Season 9

Discussion in 'GTLOZ Past Seasons' started by Hatfield, Apr 15, 2016.

  1. its-benny-racer

    its-benny-racer Professional Gold Member

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    From statistics I have read, the real life probability of rain immediately before or during a race is around 15-18%.

    So if the settings can somehow replicate this, I would be all for it, but if the settings mean it is most likely to rain at some point in every race, that is hardly realistic.
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  2. Hatfield

    Hatfield GT7 League & Teams Championship Organiser Team Raceonoz Gold Member Super ROOZ

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    I do recall the FL being a 55 where in practice, the FL on mediums was a 57...
    If anyone else could confirm this is happening, we would have to enforce a qually what you start on rule...
  3. Hatfield

    Hatfield GT7 League & Teams Championship Organiser Team Raceonoz Gold Member Super ROOZ

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    As for the weather, what if it was just changeability 1 like we run in all street races (but have yet to see ANY rain) ?
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    Hatfield GT7 League & Teams Championship Organiser Team Raceonoz Gold Member Super ROOZ

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    OP laps updated
    Round 1: Suzuka Circuit 2014 15th May - 21 laps
    Round 2: Red Bull Ring 22nd May - 31 laps
    Round 3: Brands Hatch GP Sprint 29th May - 2x 17 laps
    Round 4: Mid-Field Raceway Reverse Weather 5th Jun - 37 laps
    Round 5 Nürburgring Type V Enduro 12th Jun - 11 laps
    Round 6 Special Stage Route 5 19th Jun - 34 laps
    Round 7 Twin Ring Motegi 26th Jun - 25 laps
  5. StigsTC

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    On 1x changeability if you start at weather 0% it takes at least 40 minutes before it starts to rain and about 50 before it gets to 1% (as raining and water on track takes a long time and then the climb is much faster).
    Thus if the street races are started at 0 weather you won't ever see rain on 1x due to their short nature.
    If you want weather in GT, put it on the weather you want, don't rely on the RNG to deliver anything except disappointment.
  6. REVO_Bryan

    REVO_Bryan Professional Super ROOZ

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    At the short race last night, the track wetness changed very gradually, so hopefully it will be that way at full race distance.
  7. grassies

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    I didn't save the replay at Suzuka but from memory I did a 56.6 witch is way quicker than I have done in the few practice sessions I have done on RM.
  8. Hatfield

    Hatfield GT7 League & Teams Championship Organiser Team Raceonoz Gold Member Super ROOZ

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    I did a 57 on the mediums whereas in practice I only hit a 59...

    If others could do some testing on this too if you have time please.
    practice/qualify/enter track on softs and then pit normally and change to mediums and start race countdown.
    See if you can match your softs practice times on the medium tire.
  9. B-Spec Bob

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    My copy of the replay file.
    NB. Hat's terribad lag on the last lap coincides with Jono exiting the race and eventually DCs after crossing the finish line.
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  11. JonoStan96

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    More importantly, what paint chip did you put on your car? I'm in love! :roflmao:
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  12. B-Spec Bob

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  13. JonoStan96

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    Some photos from Mid-Field

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  14. Hatfield

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    I'm biased but my car in the tunnel looks the best ;)
  15. Hatfield

    Hatfield GT7 League & Teams Championship Organiser Team Raceonoz Gold Member Super ROOZ

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    Looks like that confirms the issue. Whatever tire you enter track on, is the characteristics of tire you start on.
    So we entered track on softs for qually then pitted for mediums and started the race.
    On each of our screens we were on the medium but with the performance of the soft. However from @B-Spec Bob 's replay you can see it shows everyone but him as being on softs.

    More to come on this...
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  16. B-Spec Bob

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  17. grassies

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    Yet again Bob you are correct.
  18. warrior2167

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    Can we do some more testing this Sunday ?. What if we can start qualy on mediums and swap to softs would that have the same glitch.
  19. Hatfield

    Hatfield GT7 League & Teams Championship Organiser Team Raceonoz Gold Member Super ROOZ

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    we assume as much. In the race it would appear to you only, that you have softs on but they would behave like mediums and other people's replays would show mediums.
    I welcome more testing wholeheartedly.
  20. B-Spec Bob

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    I've just completed a series of tyre tests with some of the titts crew and will outline the methodology, results and conclusions below. Each test consisted of slightly different combinations of tyre usage during the qualifying phase, but the aim was to start each race on RS. The race length was only 2 laps and everyone aimed to do a clean flying lap on the second lap. The representative lap times are a combination of the fastest sector times from everyone's second lap.

    Test 1
    1. Enter pit lane on RM.
    2. Complete out lap and hot lap on RM.
    3. Pit in and change to RS.
    4. Start race.
    • Race tyres are shown as RS.
    • Everyone else is on RM.
    • Combined lap time: 1:58.8
    Test 2
    1. Enter pit lane on RM.
    2. Pit in and change to RS.
    3. Complete out lap and hot lap on RS.
    4. Start race.
    • Race tyres are shown as RS.
    • Everyone else is on RM.
    • Combined lap time: 1:58.2
    Test 3
    1. Enter pit lane on RS.
    2. Pit in and change to RM.
    3. Complete out lap and hot lap on RM.
    4. Pit in and change back to RS.
    5. Start race.
    • Race tyres are shown as RS.
    • Everyone else is on RS.
    • Combined lap time: 1:56.7
    Conclusion
    • It would seem that no matter what tyre compound you complete your qualifying time on, the race will always start you on the same tyres you originally entered the pit lane in.
    • Regardless of whether or not your tyre compound is correctly labelled at the race start, the starting tyre compound of the other competitors appears to be accurate in the replay file.
    An interesting observation from qualifying was that the tyre compound label of your competitors does not change and stays the same as what they entered the pit lane with, even when they change to a different compound during the qualifying session.
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